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#1 xtrav8

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Posted 13 November 2005 - 08:44 PM

Is there a session that could be used for increasing psychic and/or general intuitive abilities? (like "third eye opening")

And what frequencies are most commonly associated with this?

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 01:09 AM

Is there a session that could be used for increasing psychic and/or general intuitive abilities?  (like "third eye opening")

And what frequencies are most commonly associated with this?

Thanks.

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Take a look in the resource lib, there might be something there. Also Jeroen seems to have an astral projection post going - maybe there's info on it.

Here's a pretty complete freq list that might help you make your own session:

FREQ. REMARKS
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0.1-3 Delta. Normally associated with a deep dreamless sleep, trance state, lucid dreaming, increased immune functions, hypnosis; and non-REM type of sleep
0.1-1 Organ+muscle resonances. (40)
0.1-3 Monroe Focus 21.
0.16-10 Neuralgias. (02)
0.18-10 Mod. therapy (02)
0.20-0.26 Dental pain. (02)
0.20-10 Post-traumatic. (02)
0.28-2.15 Alcohol addiction. (02)
0.28-10 Arthritis. (02)
0.30-0.15 Depression. (02)
0.30-10 Cervobrachial syndrome. (02)
0.37-2.15 Drug addiction. (02)
0.40-10 Confusion. (02)
0.45-10 Muscle pain. (02)
0.5-1.5 Pain relief, endorphins, better hypnosis (40)
0.5-4 Delta. Conducive to miracle type healing, divine knowledge, inner being and personal growth, rebirth, trauma recovery, "one with the universe experiences (samadhi), near death experience, characterized by "unknowing" merely a blissful "being" state such as deep sleep or coma. (18)
0.5 Very relaxing, against headache. (16)
0.5 For lower back pain. (01)
0.5 Thyroid, reproductive, excretory stimulant, whole brain toner (40)
0.9 Euphoria (40)
0.95-10 Whiplash. (02)
1-3 Delta: deep, dreamless sleep, trance state, non-REM sleep.
1-3 The last main pattern is that of delta waves, pulsations that range between 3 to 1-Hz. In this range of profound relaxation, images and dreams have largely subsided, as the person slides into a state of slow wave restorative sleep. Mediators who remain aware during this state of near unconsciousness report tranquillity and peace. (37)
1.0 Feeling of well-being, pituitary stimulation to release growth hormone; overall view of inter-relationships; harmony and balance (16)
1.05 For growth hormone production where intriguing reports of gray hair returning to its original color have been noted. (18)
1.45 Tri-thalamic entrainment format. According to Ronald de Strulle, creates entrainment between hypothalamus, pituitary and pineal. May benefit dyslexic’s and people with Alzheimer's. (20)
1.5 Abrams universal healing rate (40)
1.5 Less effect from symptoms. Those individuals whose ailments have manifested into the fourth stage of Chronic Fatigue, where some form of disease is apparent, experienced a release from the negative sensation of their symptoms when moved into 1.5-Hz. (25) (38)
1.5-2.5 Sleep.
2.15 - 10 Tendovaginatis (02)
2.5 16th harmonic of 40-Hz
2.5 Pain relief, relaxation (16)
2.5 Production of endogenous opiates (11)
2.7 15th harmonic of 40-Hz
2.9 14th harmonic of 40-Hz
3-4 Influences physical vision (40)
3.0-5.5 Theta 1 - When I first started doing Decrease training, I began with Decrease Theta at 4 to 8-Hz. Results were admittedly quite good, at least in regard to increasing SMR and Beta. When I read about Theta2, however, I realized that there could possibly be some interference with cognitive processing by decreasing Theta above 5.5-Hz As a result, I changed my primary Theta band to 3 to 6-Hz, calling it Thetal, and created a new secondary frequency band of 5.5 to 8-Hz, which became Theta2.
3.6 11th harmonic of 40-Hz
3-6 For eliciting unconscious childhood memories. (18)
3-6 Childhood awareness/vivid memories (40)
3-7 The Theta level is normally associated with recall, fantasy, imagery, creativity, inspiration, future planning, dreaming, switching thoughts, and drowsiness.
3-8 Theta - deep relaxation, meditation, increased memory, focus, creativity, lucid dreaming, Hypnagogic state.
3.0 Increased reaction time. (40)
3.1 13th harmonic of 40-Hz
3.3 12th harmonic of 40-Hz
3.4 Sound sleep.
3.5 Oneness, language learning, earth resonance (40)
3.5 Feeling of unity with everything, accelerated language retention (24)
3.5 Enhancement of receptivity (16)
4.5 Premature baby response time (latency). (41)
4-6 attitude and behavior change (17)
4-6 Out-of-body experiences. (40)
4-7 THETA Near sleep brain waves that are conducive to profound inner peace, "mystical truths", transforming unconsciously held limiting beliefs, physical and emotional healing, purpose of life exploration, a "live in quality" ... characterized by a "kind of knowing that feels like" inner wisdom, faith, meditation, some psychic abilities, and retrieving unconscious material (18)
4-7 Theta: recall, fantasy, imagery, creativity, planning, dreaming, switching thoughts, Zen meditation, drowsiness.
4-7 Meditation, Intuitive Augmentation.
4-7 Theta waves are associated with bursts of inspiration, creativity, twilight-sleep learning, deep relaxation, reverie, high levels of awareness, and vivid mental Imagery. They are Hypnopompic, and Hypnagogic (just before and just after sleep). Advanced Zen meditators can move from Alpha to Theta when in a trance as can biofeedback experts. Brain wave synchronization allows the user to reach these states without any special training or aptitude. (23)
4-8 Theta Found in states of deep relaxation, theta activity is also associated with bursts of creative insight, twilight ("sleep") learning and vivid mental imagery. It is also found in more advanced meditators. (37)
4-8 While this range is rather small, a difference of 1 or 2-Hz in this zone is very noticeable, as it is proportionately much larger than it would be in the beta or alpha range. This pattern is associated with deep unconscious imagery, and thus creativity, as the person drops into a state of drowsiness and near-sleep. (37)
4-8 THETA. Access to subconscious images, deep mediation, reduced Blood pressure, said to cure addictions. Theta seems to trigger the sudden reliving or vivid remembering of long-forgotten childhood memories. One explanation for this link between theta and childhood is that, while adults rarely produce theta, children are in a theta state most of the time--up to the age of six or beyond, children produce mostly theta waves, and then the amount of theta progressively decreases as the child grows into adulthood. In other words, children spend most of their time in what we adults would call a trance-like, altered state of consciousness, and one that is extremely open and receptive, highly conducive to the learning of new information and the creation of memories.
In recent years a large number of scientific studies have explored a phenomenon called "state bound" or "state dependent" learning. In essence, they have found that things experienced in one state (of consciousness) are far more easily remembered later when we are once again in that same state. Things learned when we're happy are remembered best when we're happy, what we learn when cold is remembered best when we're cold, and so on.
4-12 Skeletal muscle resonances. (40)
4.0 10th harmonic of 40-Hz
4.0 Associated with object naming, an important aspect of memory. (49)
4.0 Lowest frequency for brainwave entrainment. “However, when the stimulus is repeated continuously above 4-Hz, the brain begins to "resonate" with the stream of stimuli and the resultant brainwave response is of the same frequency as the stimuli.” (10)
4.0 According to Cavanagh (1972), Theta at 4-Hz corresponds to a full memory search. Theta, then, like Alpha, is a scanning frequency. Cavanagh began by compiling a number of studies dealing with different classes of stimuli (digits, colors, letters, words, geometrical shapes, random forms, and nonsense symbols). Each class of stimuli was found to have a characteristic reaction time. However, he found a constant of 243.2 ms when multiplying the reaction time for a single item by the maximum number of items in a given class. This indicated that each item class was scanned at a different speed, but that scanning of the full memory is always executed at a speed of 4-Hz.
4.0 Enkephalin’s; Extrasensory perception; Encephalin production (16)
4.0 Reduction in levels of exhaustion. Those who suffer from Chronic Fatigue exhaust very easily. When moved to 4-Hz these individuals showed marked improvement in the length of time between the occurrence of exhaustion after certain exercises were completed (25)(38)
4.5-6.5 Wakeful dreaming, vivid images (40)
4.4 9th harmonic of 40-Hz
4.5 Shamanic State of Consciousness.(39)
4.5 Tibetan Buddhist chants (39)
4.9 Theta brain wave.
4.9 Introspection. (40)
5-10 Relaxation.
5.0 8th harmonic of 40-Hz
5.0 Learning. (40)
5.0 Unusual problem solving (24)
5.0 In one study thirty patients experienced relaxation states of 80-100% after five minutes as well as improved pain relief. Eight patients had blood tests before and after the sessions and showed improved beta-endorphin levels of 10-50%.
5.3 Babies born full term response time (latency). (41)
5.5-8.0 Theta 2 (See Theta 1 - 3.0-5.5)
5.5 Knowingness, inner guidance. (40)
5.5 Moves beyond knowledge to knowing, shows vision of growth needed.
5.7 7th harmonic of 40-Hz
6.0-9.6 Somatic responses, tingling, pressure, heat. (40)
6-10 Creative Visualization - about 6-Hz for a while, then up to 10-Hz.
6.0 Long term memory stimulation (16)
6.26-6.6 Hemispheric de-sync, confusion, anxiety, low Reaction time, depression insomnia. (40)
6.2-6.7 Frontal Midline Theta (Fm Theta) is a specific EEG frequency seen in those subjects actively engaged in cognitive activity, such as solving math problems and playing Tetris (43)
6.3 Mental and astral projection; accelerated learning and increased memory retention.
6.5 Theta2 consists of trains (long runs) of rhythmic frontal activity centering at 6.5-Hz with amplitudes reaching the 50-100 uV (micro-volt) range. Theta2 is induced in some people by the performance of a mental task such as mental arithmetic, tracing a maze, counting the number of cubes piled in a three-dimensional representation, and imaging a scene. Because Theta2 is associated with mental tasks and its influence is seen in evoked potential latencies, Mizuki (1987) believes that the appearance of Theta2 closely
relates to mechanisms of attention or arousal. Theta2 is more common in extroverts with low traits of neurosis and anxiety.
6.7 6th harmonic of 40-Hz
7-8 A fascinating possibility is the harmonic association of 40-Hz activity and the Alpha/Theta Neurofeedback training for addictions. If the 40--Hz/sub-harmonics theory is correct, the objective in addictive work is to teach the brain to open the fifth sub-harmonic "gate" of 40-Hz (7-8-Hz). It may be that the addicted person can open 40-Hz's fourth Harmonic gate (Alpha) with the alcohol or drugs. But, whether it is an anomalous gene, aberrant EEG frequencies, inappropriate neurochemistry a neurochemical "lock out," or some other reason, the alcoholic is not able to open the fifth sub-harmonic 7 to 8-Hz gate. Instead of entering the Alpha/Theta state, the person sinks into the high-amplitude slow waves of profoundly lowered arousal (unconsciousness). Alpha/Theta Neurofeedback results in some 80% of those addicts properly trained becoming non-craving, having a mellow personality and significantly adjusted neurochemistry (Peninston & Kulkosky, 1990). Alpha/Theta training may be a process by which the previously closed fifth sub-harmonic gate (40-Hz divided by 5) can be opened and certain critical neurochemistry accessed.
7-13 The Alpha level is associated with a non-drowsy but relaxed, tranquil state of consciousness, primarily with pleasant inward awareness; body/mind integration.
7.0 Treatment for sleep disturbances (46)
7.0 Mental and astral projection; bending objects; psychic surgery.
7.0 Spiritual healing, telekinesis, mind projection, increased reaction time. (40)
7.5 Inter-awareness of self and purpose, guided meditation, creative thought for art, invention, music, etc.; contact with spirit guides for direction; entry into meditation (16)
7.5 At 7.5-Hz subjects who before suffered from confused thinking reported an ease at finding solutions to troublesome problems after a re-evaluation was conducted. (25)
7.5 Inter-awareness of self and purpose, guided meditation, creativity (16)
7.5 Solutions to problems. At 7.5 -Hz subjects who before suffered from confused thinking reported an ease at finding solutions to troublesome problems after a re-evaluation was conducted. (38)
7.5 Creativity, discovery of "purpose" in life, inward focus. (40)
7.7 Doyere's group (1993), found that short high frequency bursts at 7.7 Hz induced LTP in prefrontal cortex, though only for one day. (56)
7.8-8.0 Stimulates ESP, paranormal. (40)
7.83 Earth Resonance (06)
7.83 Grounding (24)
7.83 Schumann earth-ionosphere resonance, grounding, integration anti-jetlag, anti-mind control, improved stress tolerance. (40)
7.83 (Earth resonance frequency) leaves you feeling revitalized like you've spent a day in the country. (18)
8-8.6 Reduced stress/anxiety. (40)
8-10 Alpha - Rapid Refreshment in 15 minutes.
8-10 learning new information (17)
8-12 ALPHA Slower brain waves that are conducive to creative problem solving, accelerated learning, mood elevation, stress reduction, etc., characterized by intuitive insights, creative "juice", inspiration, motivation, daydreams etc. Relaxed, yet alert (18)
8-12 light relaxation, "super learning", positive thinking.
8-12 Alpha waves are smooth, regular electrical oscillations in the human brain that occur when a person is awake and relaxed or entering into the meditative state. Associated with calm, relaxed, unfocused (not concentrating), lucid mental states, dream sleep, and pleasant drifting feelings or emotions. Persons who imagine vivid visual Images have fewer Alpha waves, and Non-visualizers (those whose
preferences are tactile, aural, olfactoral, and simple visualizations) have stronger alpha waves. (23)
8-13 Alpha. Relaxation, tranquillity, feeling fine, receptivity, amplifies dowsing, empty-mind states, detachment, daydreams, mind/body integration, epileptic seizures. (40)
8-13 Relaxed, tranquil and non-drowsy, inward awareness, body mind
8-14 Qi Gong and infrasonic Qi Gong machine (28)
8.0 5th harmonic of 40-Hz
8.0 Past life regression (24)
8.0 Past life regression, more lymphocytes, DNA repair (50)
8.3 Pick up visual images of mental objects
8.3 Mental imagery, clairvoyance (40)
8.3 Monroe Focus 12.
8.6-9.8 Induces sleep, tingling sensations. (40)
9,11,16 documented calcium ion migration (brain tissue). (40)
9-13 Alpha is relaxed, not thinking about anything in particular, sometimes a pleasurable feeling of "floating". Often dominant in certain kinds of meditation, alpha waves have for the past twenty years been associated with calm, lucid mental states (the "alpha state"). They are also often detected during dream sleep. (37)
9-13 This pattern typically occurs in daydreaming, relaxed awareness, guided or focused imagery and smoothly rhythmic athletic activity. There is often a euphoric, effortless feeling of "flow" as the doer is absorbed in activity, and subject and object are felt to be united. (37)
9.0 Awareness of causes of body imbalance and means for balance (24)
9.41 Pyramid frequency (outside)
9.5-10 The peak frequency of Alpha in most people is in the 9.5 to 10-Hz range, a fourth sub-harmonic of 40-Hz. Eccles and Walter (1950) both agree that Alpha is the brain's scanning mechanism. In light of logic and current neurophysiological information, this makes sense. For example, when theeyes are closed and the visual centers in the occipital and parietal regions are deprived of visual stimuli, Alpha amplitude in the posterior head regions usually increases dramatically. Furthermore, Galin and Omstein (1972) found Alpha magnitude decreases over the hemisphere of the brain that is under task. Alpha rhythm, then, appears to be only indirectly involved in the brain's attentional mechanism. Alpha is the brain's scanning (idling) frequency, denoting a brain "standing by," waiting to give way to Beta should attention be required, or to be the bridge, the gate, to Theta and Delta for drowsiness, sleep, and certain cognitive challenges. Alpha is therefore an important cerebral rhythm, perhaps being mathematically a resonant piece of the 40-Hz Grand Conductor's ensemble of frequencies.
9.6 Mean dominant frequency associated with the earth's magnetic field (11)
9.8-10.6 Alertness. (40)
10+18 Significant improvements in memory, reading and spelling are reported (30)
10 4th harmonic of 40-Hz.
10 A harmonic frequency of 10-Hz was found to suppress EEG theta. Comparisons with control sounds of pink noise and pink noise with a sub-threshold 300-Hz tone indicated that the 10-Hz harmonic sub-threshold blends suppressed EEG theta to a considerably greater extent than did control sounds. Subthreshold tones have different windows of effectiveness for males and females (Swingle, 1992). Males are more influenced by SPL in the range of -15dB© whereas females respond more to SPL in the range of -25 dB©. With children this distinction is less clear and in practice I recommend that the -25 dB© SPL side be used for both male and female children. (46)
10 Treatment for Attention Deficit (Hyperactivity) Disorder (47)
10 Treatment for closed head injury (48)
10 Dominant alpha frequency, clarity, normalcy, anti-convulsant circadian rhythm resync, activate kidneys, raise body temp, more serotonin. (40)
10 Berger rhythm (07)
10 Enhanced release of serotonin and mood elevator, universally beneficial, use to try effects of other mixes (16)
10 Acts as an analgesic, safest frequency, especially for hangover and jet lag. (11)
10 Meg Patterson used for nicotine withdrawal (15)
10 For learning a foreign language fast, (18)
10 In a study using 20 minute sessions of 10-Hz photic stimulation, it was found that the daytime level of melatonin decreased and increases in the levels of endorphin, serotonin and norepinephrine. Shealy's group suggested that an increase in beta endorphins is associated with a sense of well being and decreased pain. The increase in norepinephrine and serotonin and the decrease in melatonin suggest an increase in the level of alertness. (35)
10 increases in neurochemical levels: 11% increase in Norepinephrine levels, 21% increase in Serotonin levels, 25% increase in Beta-Endorphin levels
10.2 Catecholamines
10.5 Relaxed alertness, contemplation, body healing, mind over matter. (40)
10.5 Healing of body, mind/body unity, fire walking (24)
10.5 Potent stabilizer and stimulating for the immunity, valuable in convalescence. (16)
10.5 For specifically lowering blood pressure (18)
10.5 Baseline of Alpha production: Alpha production is defined as the ratio of the 10.5-Hz to the entire measured EEG spectrum. (03)
10.6 Relaxed and alert
<11 Stress Reduction (less than 11-Hz
11-14 Focused alertness. (40)
11.5-14.5 An implication for neurotherapy is that if increased intelligence and mental efficiency is the objective, then a frequency band with a 13-Hz center should be used. A more desirable frequency band than 12 to 15-Hz is 11.5 to 14.5-Hz.
11 To achieve "relaxed yet alert states," (18)
12-15 Beta (low) - relaxed focus, improved attentive abilities
12-15 Sensorimotor Rhythm (SMR) - Used in the treatment of mild autism (42)
12 Centering, mental stability, transitional point, time seems faster. (40)
12 Centering, doorway to all other frequencies (24)
12 Frequency of earth resonance (14)
13-27 Beta waves are associated with focused attention towards external stimuli, alert mental activity, normal waking consciousness, and active thought processes. (23)
13-30 BETA Waking state, motivation, outer awareness, survival, problem solving, arousal, dendrite growth, combats drowsiness. (40)
13-30 Normal wakefulness (24)
13-30 The Beta level is associated with outward awareness, the taking in and evaluating of various forms of data received through the senses; it is present with worry, anger, fear, hunger, and surprise.
13-40 BETA a high frequency pattern, conducive to stimulating energy and action; most of our current institutionalized education is beta geared, characterized by logical, analytical, intellectual thinking, verbal communication, etc. (18)
13.3 3rd harmonic of 40-Hz.
14-15 Slows conditioned reflexes. (40)
14-16 Associated with sleep spindles on EEG during second stage of sleep" (11)
14-30 This pattern is optimal for intense mental activities such as calculations, linear logical analyses, and other highly structured functions (37)
14 Awake and alert
14 Alert focusing, vitality, concentration on tasks. (40)
14.1 Earth resonance. (40)
15-18 Beta (mid) - increase mental ability, focus, alertness, IQ
15-24 Euphoria. (40)
15 Chronic pain (16)
16 Bottom limit of normal hearing (20)
16 Release oxygen and calcium into the cells (29)
18-22 Beta: outward awareness, sensory data
18+ Beta (high) - fully awake, normal state of alertness, stress and anxiety
18 To improve hyperactive behavior (18)
18+10 Significant improvements in memory, reading and spelling are reported (30)
19.6 For Beta to fit the 40--Hz/Subharmonics, theory, the frequency would have to be = 19.6 (= 39.5 divided by 2). Peak frequency evaluations of the 18 to 22-Hz Beta band in a small number of subjects show that = 19.6-Hz is close to the band's frequency peak. If the 40--Hz/subharmonics theory and early results are correct, Beta should be trained, not at the 15 to 18-Hz frequency band as suggested by Othmer (1991) or the 16 to 20-Hz range as proposed by Lubar (1991), but at 18 to 22-Hz. Lubar's 16 to 20-Hz band seems close to the theoretical Beta frequency band, but his 16 to 20-Hz band is marginal. The ~19.5 frequency center is to the far limits of the filter, probably restricting full access to the desired frequency.
20-30 Phospene imagery, peak luminosity in visual field. (40)
20 2nd harmonic of 40-Hz.
20 fatigue, energize. Causes distress during labor. (11)
20 Human hearing threshold. (40)
20.3 Earth resonance. (40)
22+40 Out-of-the-body travel (44)
22+40 Psychic Healing (45)
25 Tested clinically with patients who complain of anxiety (46)
26.4 Earth resonance. (40)
27.5 lowest note an a piano (20)
30 Meg Patterson used for marijuana. (15)
30-190 Lumbago (02)
30-500 High Beta: a few people able to replicate at will
30-500 The High Beta level is not associated currently with any state of mind. Some effects have been observed, but currently not enough research has been done in this area, to prove, or disprove, anything
32 Desensitizer; enhanced vigor and alertness (16)
33 Christ consciousness, hypersensitivity, Pyramid frequency (inside)
35-150 Fractures (02)
35-193 Arthralgia (02)
35 Awakening of mid-chakras, balance of chakras
36-44 Frequencies of the olfactory bulb, prepiriform cortex & amygdala (10)
38 Endorphin release (36)
40-60 Anxiolytic effects and stimulates release of beta-endorphin (16)
40 40--Hz activity varies from 38.8 to 40.1-Hz, regardless of the electrode site. The average frequency is in the ~39.5-Hz range. In summary, when the body is profoundly relaxed and the mind is in a state of high focus and concentration, 20 and 40-Hz brain activity can be seen in the raw and quantitative EEG of some subjects. It is possible that 18 to 22-Hz Beta and possibly 40-Hz neurofeedback training may help create a "relaxed body/focused mind" state of consciousness.
40 Activity in the ectosylvian and lateral cortex, medial geniculate, reticular formation, center median thalamus, and hippocampus (33)
40 Dominant when problem solving in fearful situations. (11)
40 Gamma - associated with information-rich task processing and high-level information processing
40 "A New Theory of Consciousness" For scientists who study the human brain, even its simplest act of perception is an event of astonishing intricacy. 40-Hz brain activity may be a kind of binding mechanism, said Dr. Rodolfo Llinas a professor of neuroscience at New York University. Llinas believes that the 40-Hz wave serves to connect structures in the cortex where advanced information processing occurs, and the thalamus, a lower brain region where complex relay and integrative functions are carried out (22)
40 Confirming Sheer et al.'s work,compared the EEG of middle- and high-I.Q. subjects during mental multiplication activity. A 40-Hz rhythm occurred just prior to the subject's answering the question. Forty--Hz pulses are thought to lead to synchronization and coordination of neurons assigned to the processing of incoming sensory stimulation. Put in "computerese," 40-Hz may be the brain's "operating system" frequency (12)
40 "Auditory evoked potentials are usually divided into three categories: brainstem potentials, less than 10 msec latency; late cortical potentials, probably 100 msec and up, something like that, I don't exactly remember; and the "middle latency potentials", with a latency in the range of about 20 to 40 msec or so, and a duration of about 25 msec. In other words, the later the potential, the more it resembles EEG, in several respects, especially sensitivity to anesthesia and levels of consciousness. A potential with a duration of 25 msec can be elicited using a 40-Hz stimulus (40 times a second that is; the stimuli can be tone bursts at various frequencies), thus producing a 40-Hz steady-state potential. In, say, the Seventies and Eighties, there was a lot of interest in using middle latency auditory EPs for hearing assessment in difficult-to-test subjects, particularly with the 40-Hz paradigm. The late cortical potentials are too closely linked to state of consciousness for that. Since the middle latency potentials are linked to state of consciousness, it makes sense to try to use them to assess levels of anesthesia. but I don't see that it has anything to do with the brain having a "resonance" at 40-Hz. In fact, since the highest amplitude EEG waves are at frequencies below 8-Hz (delta, theta), alpha waves (8-13) are in the middle, and beta (14 and up) are the smallest amplitudes, I would suspect that the resonant frequencies of cortical tissues are in the 10-Hz and under range. Notice, too, that the resonant frequencies, if that's indeed what they are, seem to change with levels of consciousness and activation -- in normal adults, you don't get frequencies under 7-Hz except in sleep, and you get occipital alpha activity only in an alert, relaxed state with eyes closed. Also, if it really has to do with a resonant frequency characteristic of the brain, why are there not 40-Hz visual and somatosensory potentials?" (27)
43-193 Carcinomatosis (02)
50-60 Documented negative effects too numerous to mention There is no correlation given with signal strength or modality used, i.e. audio-visual, EMF, magnetic, electrostatic, gravitic. Also, most ELF research is now Govt classified, particularly since the mid-1960's when Hamer discovered behavioral effects as the result of applied sinusoidal field gradients as low as 4 volts. (40)
50 Dominant frequency of polyphasic muscle activity, mains electrical in U.K. (11)
50 Slower cerebral rhythms
55 Tantric yoga; stimulates the kundalini (24)
60 Electric power lines
63 Astral projection (24)
70-9,000 Voice spectrum (19)
70 Mental and astral projection
72 Emotional spectrum
80 Awareness and control of right direction. Appears to be involved in stimulating 5-hydroxytryptamine production, with 160-Hz. Combine with 2.5-Hz. (11)
83 Third eye opening for some people
90 Good feelings, security, well-being, balancing.
95-125 Acoustical Resonances of Assorted Ancient Structures (58)
105 Overall view of complete situation
108 Total knowing
110 Stomach- ♪A (05)
111 Beta endorphin (21)
111 Cell regeneration
117.3 Pancreas- ♪C# (05)
120-500 PSI, transmutation, psychokinesis, P.S.I.; moving of objects, changing matter; transmutation.
125 Graham potentializer; Stimulation (17)
126.22 Sun, 32nd octave of Earth year (13)
136.1 Sun: light, warmth, joy, animus (32)
140.25 Pluto: power, crisis & changes
141.27 Mercury: intellectuality, mobility
144.72 Mars: activity, energy, freedom, humor
147.85 Saturn: separation, sorrow, death
160 Appears to be involved in stimulating 5-hydroxytryptamine production, with 80-Hz. (11)
164.3 Gall Bladder- ♪E (04)
176 Colon- ♪F# (05)
183.58 Jupiter: growth, success, justice, spirituality
194.71 Earth: stability, grounding
198 Liver- ♪Ab (05)
207.36 Uranus: spontaneity, independence, originality
211.44 Neptune: the unconscious, secrets, imagination, spiritual love
220 Lungs- ♪A (05)
221.23 Venus: beauty, love, sexuality, sensuality, harmony
250 Elevate and revitalize
256 Root Chakra- ♪c (04)
264 Personality- ♪C+ (05)
272 33rd octave of Earth year (13)
273 Transpersonal Chakra- ♪c# (04)
281 Intestines- ♪C# (04)
281.6 Small Intestine- ♪C# (05)
288 Polarity Chakra- ♪d (04)
295.8 Fat Cells- ♪C# (04)
315 Diaphragm Chakra- ♪d# (04)
315.8 Brain- ♪Eb (04)
317.83 Liver- ♪Eb (04)
319.88 Kidney- ♪Eb (04)
320 Solar Plexus Chakra- ♪Eb (04)
321.9 Blood- ♪E (04)
324 Muscles- ♪E (04)
330 Kidney- ♪E (05)
330 Gall Bladder- ♪E (05)
341 Heart Chakra- ♪f (04)
352 Bladder- ♪F# (05)
352 Thymus Chakra- ♪f# (04)
384 "Gurdjieff vibration associated with root Chakra. Sixth harmonic of six, center of the brainwave spectrum." (31)
384 Throat Chakra- ♪g (04)
396 ♪G (musical note) (26)
405 Violet (26)
416 Psychic Center Chakra- ♪ab (04)
418.3 Bone- ♪ab (04)
420.82 Moon: love, sensitivity, creativity, femininity, anima
438 Indigo
440 ♪A (musical note)
448 Third Eye Chakra- ♪a (04)
473 Blue
480 Crown Chakra- ♪b (04)
492 Adrenal’s, Thyroid & Parathyroid- ♪B (05)
492 Spleen- ♪B (05)
495 ♪B (musical note) Activates niacin (34)
495 The B, F, F# combo in BioAcoustics nourishes normal structure and function for kidneys, mineral distribution, high blood pressure and the system of fluid distribution through the body. (34)
527 Green
528 ♪C (musical note)
580 Yellow
586 Circulation, Sex- ♪C# (05)
594 ♪D (musical note)
597 Orange
660 ♪E (musical note)
700 Red
704 ♪F (musical note)
704 The B, F, F# combo in BioAcoustics nourishes normal structure and function for kidneys, mineral distribution, high blood pressure and the system of fluid distribution through the body. (34)
1000 Cerebral neurons
4,186 highest note on a piano (20)
16,000 to 20,000 Upper range for normal hearing (20)

Energy/Chakra Reference Charts (57)
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7th - Crown/Sahasrara, Violet/white, Pineal, Upper brain/right eye, Integration of personality and Spirituality, 15 Hz/musical series of B
6th - Brow/Ajna, Indigo/violet, Pituitary, Lower brain/left eye/ears/ nose/nervous system, Visualization/conceptualization, 13 Hz/ musical series of A
5th - Throat/Vishuddha, Blue, Thyroid, Lungs/vocal chords, Expression/self in society, 12 Hz/musical series of G
4th - Heart/Anahata, Green, Thymus, Heart/blood/circulatory system, Love of Life/love of self and others, 10.5 Hz/musical series of F
3rd - Solar Plexus/Manipura, Yellow, Pancreas, Stomach/liver/ gall bladder/nervous system, Spiritual wisdom/self-healing, 10 Hz/musical series of E
2nd - Sacral/Svadhisthana, Orange, Gonads, Reproductive system, Relationships/sexuality, 9 Hz/musical series of D
1st - Base/Muladhara, Red, Adrenals, Spinal column/kidneys, Physical energy/will to live, 8 Hz/musical series of C>

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Transcendental Meditation. Another interesting mathematical correlation with 40-Hz is the EEG during meditation. Banquet (1973) found 20- and 40--Hz EEG changes in advanced Transcendental Meditators during the third stage of meditation (considered to be deep meditation or "transcendence"). The EEG was characterized by a dominant Beta rhythm at 20-Hz. In summary, when the body is profoundly relaxed and the mind is in a state of high focus and concentration, 20- and 40--Hz brain activity can be seen in the raw and quantitative EEG of some subjects. It is possible that 18-22-Hz Beta and possibly 40--Hz neurofeedback training may help create a "relaxed body/focused mind" state of consciousness.
Immediate Relaxation and Stress Relief. Choose between 5 to 10-Hz for different levels of relaxation. (51)

Meditation. Choose between 4 to 7-Hz, either cycle between a few, or stay at a particular frequency for different results. (51)

Induce Sleep. Choose between 4 to 6-Hz for starters, then go into frequencies below 3.5-Hz, settling on about 1.5 to 2.5-Hz for sleep. (51)

Improved Sleeping Patterns. Any of the Alpha and Theta frequencies (8 to 4-Hz) for 30-45 minute sessions. (51)

Treatment of Insomnia. Choose between 4 to 6-Hz for starters (1/2 hour), then go into frequencies below 3.5-Hz (½ hour), settling on about 1.5 to 2.5-Hz for sleep. (51)

Improved and Lasting Sense of Well Being. Try Theta (4 to 7-Hz) for 45 minutes, daily. (51)

Creative Visualization. About 6-Hz for a while, then up to 10-Hz works well. (51)

Stress Reduction. Any use of frequencies below 11-Hz will reduce stress. (51)

Alleviation of Migraines and Headaches. Experiment with Alpha and Theta combinations. (51)

Reduction of Depression Symptoms. Again, Alpha and Theta combinations, mostly theta. (51)

Self Hypnosis. Choose about 8 to 10-Hz while playing any self-hypnosis tape, or guided meditation. (51)

Super Learning. Choose about 7 to 9-Hz while playing any learning tapes, like foreign language tapes, etc. to increase comprehension. Listen during study of written material. (51)

Subliminal Programming. Choose 5 to 7-Hz while playing your favorite subliminal tapes, or make your own by recording some affirmations, and mix paste them from the clipboard at barely audible volumes. (51)

Improve ESP / Intuition. Theta frequencies help in this area, 4 to 7-Hz. (51)

Reaching Higher States of Consciousness. Theta again, with daily half hour sessions. (51)

Quick Refresher on long days. Low Alpha 8 to 10-Hz for about 15 minutes works well. (51)

Increased Immune System. Relaxing to Alpha and Theta combinations daily. Using Alpha Synchronization (8 to 12-Hz), expect similar increases in neurochemical levels: 11% increase in Norepinephrine levels, 21% increase in Serotonin levels, 25% increase in Beta-Endorphin levels. (51)

I.Q. increases. In a controlled study, (Dr. Siegried) Othmer has found that beta training (13 to 40 Hz) produces average IQ increases of 23 percent. In cases where the starting IQ value was lower than 100, the average IQ increase was 33 points. Othmer has also found dramatic improvements in visual retention and auditory memory, and the subjects showed major gains in reading and arithmetic. In a one-year follow-up study, the trainees showed major improvements in self-esteem and concentration and significant improvements in such areas as handwriting, school grades, sleep, irritability, organization, hyperactivity, verbal expression, and headaches...Amazingly the improvements seem to be permanent. (52)

Food Supplement. To my joy, I found a combination of dimethylaminoethanol (DMAE), a nutrient found in seafood, and binaural-beat signals worked well to offset my learning disabilities.

Biochemical processes linked by frequencies. All of the biochemical processes of the body are linked by frequency relationships as elucidated by Ms. Edwards. One elegant example is the frequency relationship between two of the minerals that are primary constituents of bone: if you combine the frequencies for each, the combined frequency is the frequency of the amino acid with binds the two into bone! http://pweb.na2k.net...t/bionutrit.htm

Effect of latency on aging. Also in 1959, Robert Ellingson, PhD, of the Nebraska Psychiatric Institute, examined the effects of photic stimulation on 700 babies. In his study, he placed a strobe light ten inches from the babies' faces. He noted that premature babies had response times (latencies) as long as 220 milliseconds (msec). Babies born at term had latencies of about 190 msec. These fell to nearly 100 msec by 15 weeks of age with very little change into adulthood. The amplitude of the evoked response in the babies was best when their eyes were closed and probably sleeping. http://www.comptronic.com/history.htm

Alcohol or drug addiction and the Alpha/Theta border. If the 40-Hz / subharmonics theory is correct, the objective in addictive work, is to teach the brain to open the fifth subharmonic "gate" of 40-Hz (7 to 8-Hz). It appears that the addicted person can open 40-Hz's fourth Harmonic gate (Alpha) with the alcohol or drugs, but, for some reason the alcoholic is not able to open the fifth subharmonic 7 to 8-Hz gate and sinks into the high-amplitude slow waves of profoundly lowered arousal (unconsciousness.) Alpha/Theta training may be a process by which the previously closed fifth subharmonic gate (40-Hz divided by 5) can be opened and certain critical neurochemistry accessed and results in some 80% of those addicts properly trained becoming non-craving, having a mellow personality and significantly adjusted neurochemistry (Peninston & Kulkosky, 1990).

Meditation. Another interesting mathematical correlation with 40-Hz is the EEG during meditation. Banquet (1973) found 20 and 40-Hz EEG changes in advanced Transcendental Meditators during the third stage of meditation (considered to be deep meditation or "transcendence").

Das and Gastaut (1955), recording from seven trained Yogis, reported high amplitude levels of 40-Hz activity during the Samadi state, which is the final, most intense concentration state in this form of meditation. Pollini and Peper (1976) reported Beta activity at 18 To 20-Hz in subjects during meditation. In summary, when the body is profoundly relaxed and the mind is in a state of high focus and concentration, 20 and 40-Hz brain activity can be seen in the raw and quantitative EEG of some subjects. It is possible that 18 to 22-Hz Beta and possibly 40-Hz Neurofeedback training may help create a "relaxed body/focused mind" state of consciousness.

Sleep disturbances. The sound was a single sinusoidal tone that modulated between 285-Hz and 315-Hz at about 7 cycles per minute. We have found that a subliminal recording of this tone is clinically useful for some patients with sleep disturbances.

Male and female Sound Pressure Levels. Two equal amplitude sinusoidal tones with frequency differences of 2 -Hz, 5 -Hz, 8 -Hz, 10 -Hz, 15 -Hz, and 25 -Hz were embedded in pink noise at Sound Pressure Levels (SPL) of -17 dB© and -25 dB©; which correspond to the effective subliminal ranges for males and females, respectively (Swingle, 1992).

Out-of-the-body experience. It was interesting to note the highest amplitude beta was at 40 and 22-Hz. These numbers resonate with some of the unpublished work done by Dr. Edgar Wilson and students of the Monroe Institute who were attempting to have an out-of-the-body experience. He found that as the students moved out-of-the-body, their beta activity increased dramatically at T3 and/or T4 with the highest amplitudes appearing at 22 and 40-Hz. Dr . Steven Fahrion presented a paper a couple of years ago concerning his work with healers and reported much the same results. Perhaps these papers will be published at some future date. (44)

PMS. An EEG study of six women with PMS demonstrated that, when they were premenstrual, their EEG’s showed more slow (delta) activity and slower P300 evoked response than when they were mid-cycle. It is concluded that PMS belongs to a group of disorders characterized by excessive slow brainwave activity. In a treatment for PMS, seventeen women with PMS treated themselves with a take-home flashing light device for 15 to 20 minutes per day throughout their cycle, using frequencies of 18-Hz and 10-Hz alternating for two minute periods. Thirteen of the seventeen experienced a greater than 50% reduction in their symptoms. It is concluded that photic stimulation is an effective treatment for PMS. (53)

Treatment of Chronic Anxiety Disorder with Neurotherapy. In November, 1991 we introduced the patient to EEG feedback training, to relax and remove tension. The original protocol was to increase alpha (8 to 12-Hz) and decrease beta (16 to 20 -Hz). Initial baseline readings showed that the patient's dominant brain wave frequency was already alpha (amplitude greater than 35-Hz). Following 15 sessions of slow wave inhibit/fast wave increase EEG feedback training, the patient reported a significant reduction in anxiety-related symptoms. At a three-year follow-up, results of an MMPI-2 showed all clinical scales within normal range. In addition, self-reports confirmed that the patient was symptom free. (54)

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS). This study revealed CFS EEG microvolt levels were significantly higher in the 5 to 7-Hz range in both conditions and were significantly lower in the 9 to 11-Hz range. This display of excess theta is assumed to reflect the cognitive difficulties associated with CFS. The increased microvolt levels found in the lower frequencies in CFS subjects may be indicative of deficits in information processing speed, psychomotor activity, attention, retrieval of information from semantic memory, and logical reasoning, and the metabolism of the cerebral cortex found in earlier studies between CFS patients and other disorders (DeLuca et al., 1995; Johnson et al., 1994; Krupp et al., 1994; Ray et al., 1993; Schwartz et al., 1994; Smith et al., 1993). (55)

Autism. Frankie has received 31 sessions of training in which he has been rewarded for raising his SMR (12 to 15-Hz) and decreasing theta (4 to 8-Hz) activity at various brain loci on the sensory-motor strip and parietal lobe. The behavioral changes and the brain wave changes in this 8-year-old autistic boy are viewed as a positive outcome of Neurotherapy. These results are suggestive that Neurotherapy can be an effective treatment for some of the symptoms of mild autism. (42)
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 03:18 AM

Keep in mind that the above posting is combining a lot of different sources of information, and combines info about real scientific research with completely unverified claims about other frequencies.

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 07:19 AM

Keep in mind that the above posting is combining a lot of different sources of information, and combines info about real scientific research with completely unverified claims about other frequencies.

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I say always have a bag of salt handy with any entrainment claims. Likely not too much real science on psychic phenoms and entrainment. But then, even when I try to follow up on research on say, depression, I get a site that sells "holy water." I also stumbled on a discussion thread where someone had looked for anything on entrainment in the mainstream medical and psych lit and found little or nothing. He said that entrainment made a big splash a number of years ago and then sank beneath the "real science" radar. Research by Big Pharma on SSRI's and depression is accepted as realscience, yet people are skeptical because of the funding of the research, as well as all the other confounding factors in the experiments. When I followed up on the SAD research given by Adam, I found out that one of the researchers also sells the DAVID AVE system. Shouldn't the same skepticism be applied in this case as with the big drug comps? So as I say, always have a bit of salt available with this stuff.
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 01:42 PM

Combining info about real scientific studies into a list that also has a lot of what basically amounts to nonsense info about other frequencies, then publishing that combined listing, is doing nothing but hurting what credibility there is. Especially when that info is published without any of the disclaimers, footnotes, or bibliographies that are present in the original lists.

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 05:01 PM

I wouldn't lump entrainment in with psychic stuff, waverider. That's not really fair, and certainly doesn't help new people coming to this forum who are not aware that you're just beginning your research of this field.

For one thing, try looking up entrainment as a fundamental principle of physics and energy. Look up the word entrainment in any scientific research site. You'll see literally thousands of studies related to chemistry, astronomy, physics as well as neurology, psychology and other brain science.

For general entrainment, try:
http://www.snr-jnt.o...biofeedback.htm
http://www.lifetools...ghtandsound.pdf
http://www.proteus-s.....stracts 1.pdf

There's some more stuff in the member's area and in the books we've recommended to you.

I have friends with subscriptions to most of the mainstream research archives, and by doing a simple search I came up with many mainstream studies on the subject published in peer reviewed journals. I also have a small library here with books, papers, dissertations and other resources. Trust me when I say there's a LOT of science behind entrainment. AFAIK it is an undisputed fact that entrainment (repetitive stimulation) affects brainwaves. The only part of entrainment that is controversial is the treatment of certain disorders. Its a small leap from "this affects brainwaves" to "this could be useful for X, X and X". I think it is only a matter of time until its usefulness in those areas is proved beyond a doubt. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

Be honest, waverider... are you just arguing for arguments sake half the time? :) You've said before you've had success with these sessions, and every chance you get you recommend theta sessions. I appreciate the devil's advocate role and all that, and HEALTHY skepticism is good (especially with this psychic stuff, chakras and other stuff floating around), but this is a forum to help support users of the application and give them confidence in the technology. If someone asks about studies, sure let's have a discussion... but it seems you want a debate in every thread. Its becoming kind of tiring honestly. I'd rather we spend the little time we have to visit this forum helping people use the technology to its fullest.

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 07:08 PM

I wouldn't lump entrainment in with psychic stuff, waverider. That's not really fair, and certainly doesn't help new people coming to this forum who are not aware that you're just beginning your research of this field.

For one thing, try looking up entrainment as a fundamental principle of physics and energy. Look up the word entrainment in any scientific research site. You'll see literally thousands of studies related to chemistry, astronomy, physics as well as neurology, psychology and other brain science.


Fine, entrainment is a basic physical principle. Doesn't say much about effects brainwave entrainment per se. I don't see how I lumped it in with psychic stuff - he asked about the freqs, I answered. ***Edit*** - I was saying not much scientific research on brainwave entrainment leading to psychic abilities***

We seem to be coming from polar opposite points of view MW. RM cautioned about lumping "real science" in with psychic stuff. To me, that warning is uneccessary as far as someone interested in the mystic stuff - they likely don't think there's science behind it, hopefully understand that scientific skepticism isn't helpful there. In that area the 'believe it and you will see it' attitude seems to produce better results. But, science is a very limited but powerful way of looking at the world. It's limitation -skepticism - 'show me" is what gives it the power. So it is when people make claims in the name of science that put on my skeptic hat. I do worry that people will try to deal with serious medical or psychological conditons by mis-using entrainment because they think it's proven 'science'.

I have friends with subscriptions to most of the mainstream research archives, and by doing a simple search I came up with many mainstream studies on the subject published in peer reviewed journals. I also have a small library here with books, papers, dissertations and other resources. Trust me when I say there's a LOT of science behind entrainment. AFAIK it is an undisputed fact that entrainment (repetitive stimulation) affects brainwaves. The only part of entrainment that is controversial is the treatment of certain disorders. Its a small leap from "this affects brainwaves" to "this could be useful for X, X and X". I think it is only a matter of time until its usefulness in those areas is proved beyond a doubt. The proof is in the pudding as they say.


I don't know where you got this idea that I question the priciple of entrainment or the following response in brainwaves - if i did I wouldn't be here. (At least, I believe tones/light have some sort of effect on consciousness. Don't know about entrainment/FR for sure - I read a piece the other day that said the mechanism is a different one, but that's not important to me)


***Edit*** - you misunderstood my post - I wasn't questioning the principle of entrainment, but any scientific research on brainwave entrainment leading to psychic abilties.****

That small leap is can be a huge jump for mankind - but that's the problem. Because people want it to work they don't want to question it. To me that is a dangerous attitude. And that is what I am posting about when you or RM are blinding me with science - is the science really there? You say it's only a matter of time - well great, let's be patient, give it the time until the pudding is ready, and in the meantime not say science's name in vain, make it scientism.


Be honest, waverider... are you just arguing for arguments sake half the time? :) You've said before you've had success with these sessions, and every chance you get you recommend theta sessions. I appreciate the devil's advocate role and all that, and HEALTHY skepticism is good (especially with this psychic stuff, chakras and other stuff floating around), but this is a forum to help support users of the application and give them confidence in the technology. If someone asks about studies, sure let's have a discussion... but it seems you want a debate in every thread. Its becoming kind of tiring honestly. I'd rather we spend the little time we have to visit this forum helping people use the technology to its fullest.

MW

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I do tend to argue for arguments sake at times, so let me argue with you. The success I've had so far is in changing states of consciousness while using the stimulus. My jury is still out about any long term benefits.

As I said above, I think skepticism is more warrented when science is invoked than with the mystical stuff. Science to me is operationalized skepticism. Skepticism with the mystic stuff seems built in; a lot of time it's about letting go of skeptcism that is the challenge.

As for tiring of my arguments, well I have slowed down a bit, but as I said, it's how i learn, so you may have to do a caffeine session after reading my posts. Or, just don't read them - even warn others about them if you want.

I do appreciate your posts because they challenge me, and because you fight fair, so as far as I'm concerned it's all good.

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 07:21 PM

I don't disagree with anything you just said. Maybe I misread your other post. Missing vocal inflection and all of that its hard to get a grasp of what people are trying to say.

BTW I responded to some of your posts on depression.

As for tiring of my arguments, well I have slowed down a bit, but as I said, it's how i learn, so you may have to do a caffeine session after reading my posts. Or, just don't read them - even warn others about them if you want.


Oh come now. The "if you dont like it don't read it" argument appears in every forum and has never worked in any of them. I'm just saying: try to be a bit more considerate before you go on rants. This isn't a professionals forum, its a forum for users seeking assistance :)

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 07:33 PM

I don't disagree with anything you just said.


Awww - your're no fun.


BTW I responded to some of your posts on depression.



And I responded to your response



Oh come now. The "if you dont like it don't read it" argument appears in every forum and has never worked in any of them. I'm just saying: try to be a bit more considerate before you go on rants. This isn't a professionals forum, its a forum for users seeking assistance :)

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The argument has always worked for me - ie I don't read posters I come to dislike, or I don't respond.

I know it's not a professioal forum - I think that makes it OK for me to go on rants. Who am I supposed to be considerate of? My main rant seems to be the science on this stuff is pretty skimpy, so don't rely on science to validate if for you, just eat the pudding yourself and enjoy.
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 09:36 PM

RM cautioned about lumping "real science" in with psychic stuff. To me, that warning is uneccessary as far as someone interested in the mystic stuff - they likely don't think there's science behind it, hopefully understand that scientific skepticism isn't helpful there.

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You really don't get it???
You published a list that combines other lists available on the internet; lists that come with warnings about some of the frequency claims possibly being complete nonsense, and lists that have informative links where possible. In addition to combining those lists, you have added blurbs of the real research that has been done with some of these frequencies, and thrown in your own opinions on several items as if they are fact. Almost none of the original research links are present in your combined/patched list, and frequency claims that are likely complete nonsense are given the same weight as those that are very well researched and documented.

You really can't see how publishing lists like that diminish what actual research has been done, and harm the credibility of that research? Lists on the internet and in discussion groups like this one get referenced outside their intended context. You have taken multiple lists and actual research info, put them together out of their original context, and created a kludge that will now likely be referenced by others.

If the list is intended for "someone interested in the mystic stuff" who "likely don't think there's science behind it", then why did you paste science in the middle of nonsense?

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 09:48 PM

Incidentally, Joroen is building an application to compile, document and comment on frequencies and protocols. This will be a major step up from the notepad lists circulating on the internet. I actually think it could become an important industry reference tool.

Feel free to PM him if you want to contribute. There more talk of this subject in the member's area.

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 08:28 AM

You really don't get it???
You published a list that combines other lists available on the internet; lists that come with warnings about some of the frequency claims possibly being complete nonsense, and lists that have informative links where possible.  In addition to combining those lists, you have added blurbs of the real research that has been done with some of these frequencies, and thrown in your own opinions on several items as if they are fact.  Almost none of the original research links are present in your combined/patched list, and frequency claims that are likely complete nonsense are given the same weight as those that are very well researched and documented.

You really can't see how publishing lists like that diminish what actual research has been done, and harm the credibility of that research?  Lists on the internet and in discussion groups like this one get referenced outside their intended context.  You have taken multiple lists and actual research info, put them together out of their original context, and created a kludge that will now likely be referenced by others. 

If the list is intended for "someone interested in the mystic stuff" who "likely don't think there's science behind it", then why did you paste science in the middle of nonsense?

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Actually all I did was re-post a list that was posted here some time ago. I did no cutting and pasting, nor add my opinions. My understanding is that it is the BWGen list, which is very similar to the lunarsight list given as a reference by Transparenent. Admittedly Transparent gives a warning that not all freqs on the list are verified, but then I assumed that would be self evident by now (so evident to me I didn't even consider it as a question). Adam offers a HGh session using 1.05 freq. The list says this freq will can turn white hair back to color - is there really hard science behind that claim?

So what if some claims for freqs are complete nonsense - may people consider psychic ability to be complete nonsense, and many more consider BWE same.

If you want to publish a list here that has solid science behind it, that would be great. I would especially appreciate abstracts from mainstream med and psych journals about solid studies that show BWE as an effective treatment for a specific condition, with long term follow up. MW gave one that showed good results with chronic alcoholics, but it was for brainwave biofeed back. I've heard the argument that biofeedback is different because it teaches the subject control vs just passively entraining - so it might be easier for them to increase a targe brainwave range w/o equipment whenever they choose. I alos know that biofeedback seems to be more or less passe in "solid science" circles.

I really doubt if your list will include solid scientific studies about increasing psychic abilities, which was the originial question - so I'm not sure how any caveats about science are useful there. Again I didn't paste any science, and the question still seems to be how much science there is in the science you are claiming.

Personally I'm more here for the wacky stuff. I don't see how someone can get hurt trying to say balance their chackras using BWE - if it works, great, if not no harm no foul. There is a danger of raising kundalini without being prepared for it, but it can also happen spontaneously or with many other practices, so I don't know of that's a big worry for BWE, though it was mentioned as one of the three concerns on a Michael Hutchinson related site.

I consider your stance to be the pontentially more dangerous one - claiming solid science, when, it seems solid science isn't really all that interested in BWE as treament. This attitude is what might get someone to rely on this stuff when they should be seeking treatment elsewhere, and it is the treatment part of BWE that should come with the warnings and disclaimers.

For me exploration of consciousness that may be offered by BWE is what attracts me. Adam seems to straddle the fence, be open to both sides, note his post above mine. You want only the solid science - according to MW you still have a wait ahead of you, and likely I won't be the only one to raise your ire by re-publishing that list - some people have actually thanked me for the info.

anyway - take care

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 02:11 PM

For me exploration of consciousness that may be offered by BWE is what attracts me.  Adam seems to straddle the fence, be open to both sides, note his post above mine.  You want only the solid science - according to MW you still have a wait ahead of you, and likely I won't be the only one to raise your ire by re-publishing that list - some people have actually thanked me for the info.

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Raise my ire by publishing that list? No, when you published that list I merely responded with a disclaimer that people need to keep in mind when reading the list that it has in it real research info mixed right in with unsubstantiated claims. You took it on yourself to expand on that by saying that all research into BWE is bogus, so none of that list has more credibility than the rest. That's what raised the ire. It really seems that your goal here is just to argue and try to do your best to discredit what research there has been into BWE, and argue whatever point you are trying to make into the ground. My goal here is not to pursue "solid science", it is to use the product and help others use the product. I have stated in plenty of other threads what I use NP2 for, and the pursuit of science is not on my agenda at all as I barely have enough free time to even use NP2 for 30-45 minutes per day as it is. However, I do read the posts on these forums and find it a little hard to choke down when somebody becomes a self-proclaimed overnight expert on all things BWE and works as hard as he/she (?) can to denounce what little bit of research there has been saying that BWE is beneficial. After all, this is "Neuro-Programmer - Questions" forum and not "Let's try to disprove everything anybody is using BWE for - Arguments". It really gets tiresome coming to these forums only to read you on every single thread there is, busily injecting your opinion about everything BWE, and then arguing that point until others just get tired of replying. I notice also that you don't just do it here on Transparent's forums, you do it in plenty of other forums also. I don't know what "your goal" is here or on those other forums, but it really seems to be driving others to ignore your posts. If so, it's working.

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 02:47 PM

Adam offers a HGh session using 1.05 freq. The list says this freq will can turn white hair back to color - is there really hard science behind that claim?


Other lists exaggerate claims. In the study on 1.05, a single subject out of many regrew hair. So it is worth mentioning but shouldn't be an expected benefit of the frequency on any list. You'll not find that frequency as verified in the member's area list. I expect it is only included in NP2 as an experimental alternative to the regular HGH session, which focuses on dropping you to a state where adults releases HGH naturally (delta).

Yes some of the sessions are based on experimental protocols. But those are a rarity in the NP2.

I alos know that biofeedback seems to be more or less passe in "solid science" circles.

I consider your stance to be the pontentially more dangerous one - claiming solid science, when, it seems solid science isn't really all that interested in BWE as treament.


Uhm, "solid science" isn't an exclusive member's only club. Its "interest" in a treatment is not a prerequisite for efficacy.

Scientific circles are like any other human endeavor. You've going to have nuts on either side. I've heard more than one educated person claim there is no such thing as hypnosis. Anyone who has tried hypnosis knows this is a moronic claim. I've also read articles where scientists recommend against practicing meditation or yoga. One said meditation caused 'antisocial' behavior.

The bottom line is that you have to use the same measure of skepticism with THEM as you do with the alternative remedies. Just because someone is questioning a claim does not mean they are completely objective. In fact, nobody is completely objective and everyone wants to hold onto their beliefs.

You want only the solid science - according to MW you still have a wait ahead of you


Don't put words into people's mouths. I said we'll have to wait until it is proven beyond a doubt. In my mind it is already proven to work with ADD, Depression, Chronic Pain, Anxiety, Stress Relief, Migraines and many other disorders. But then, is anything really proven beyond a doubt? As Adam said, there are discrepancies in almost every study, in every field. At some point you just have to say "this is probably true".

Nobody is saying people should abandon traditional medicine for this, though many people have and been successful with it (including myself).

Doing a simple web search I found these 2 right off the bat:

Introduction: The effect of AVS on symptoms of decreased attention and concentration was studied in an uncontrolled open clinical trial in members of a CFS support group.

Methods: Volunteer subjects completed written informed consent and received 60 daily sessions of AVS at a target frequency of 18Hz. Pre and post intervention QEEG’s, Beck depression scale, Magill pain questionnaire, T.O.V.A., DSM-IV ADHD symptom checklist were done. None of the subjects had Wender Utah criteria for childhood ADHD.

Findings: Out of 15 subjects registered in the study only 3 were found to have normal QEEG’s in terms of amplitude abnormalities. The dominant abnormal pattern is excess occipital and parietal beta relative amplitude, (9/15) and the second most dominant pattern is excess occipital delta relative amplitude (3/15). These changes were independent of medication. Additionally, averaged Z-scores for relative amplitude, coherence, phase and amplitude asymmetry were determined for the group at baseline and at follow-up. Baseline averaged relative amplitude Z-scores deviated significantly from the reference database (Thatcher using Neurorep reporting system) with substantial excess beta and deficit alpha distributed uniformly across the head. Following 60 daily sessions of 15 minutes of AVS at 18HZ post testing was done on the twelve subjects who completed the study. All of the testing variables improved. Using a student t test to evaluate significance, we found an increase in T.O.V.A commission (impulsivity) average T-scores from 93.33+/-19.46 to 103.50 +/- 8.3, p = .021, a corresponding decrease in average scalar DSM-IV impulsivity/ hyperactivity criteria from 3.40 +/- 2.01 to 0.92 +/- 1.51, p = .016, and an increase in self reported energy levels (scale of 1 to 10) from 3.17 +/- 1.53 to 5.25 +/- 2.49, p = .007. Comparing pre and posttest QEEG averaged relative amplitude, coherence, phase and amplitude asymmetry Z-scores, no statistically significant differences were noted. There were trends towards uniform increased coherence and theta relative amplitude.


And this:

Repeated stimulation induced neuronal activation (SINA), with cognitive and behavioral functioning changes in ADHD children.

Harold Russell, Ph.D.

Recent reports including photographs of synaptic growth and development subsequent to repeated electrical stimulation of large groups of neurons may offer a possible explanation of the results of a series of controlled studies of ADHD children utilizing photic and auditory stimulation to induce activation of large groups of neurons in the brains of these children. Observations of cognitive and behavioral improvements in these children were made at the end of 40 sessions of training with the gains persisting at 16 months follow up. Results of these studies and others supporting the stimulation induced neuronal activation (SINA) hypothesis will be cited.


Also I'm attaching some other documents you may find interesting. Yes, I know they're from Seiver, but there are a lot of interesting information and other studies mentioned in it.

Well waverider, I've tried my best to show you there's some good science behind this stuff (NOT talking about the psychic stuff, mind). But I don't have a lot of time right now to be rooting through the internet. I can only ask that you do some research on your own from now on, before going on rants here. And maybe focus more on helping people, instead of preaching. :)

Cheers
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Posted 15 November 2005 - 02:51 PM

Also attached is another one you may find interesting (on depression, neurotransmitters, etc). Not trying to start another debate here, just thought you (or others) would enjoy the read.

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